Russia
Above: from top to bottom: SNM-11, SNM-32, SNM-17, SBM-20, SNM-13
An eBay seller indicates these may have been made by "VNIIRT / Soviet Institute for Scientific Radiation Technology Research"
Started making a list I found some pages
- SNM tube summary
- Has lots of mistakes though…current is actually
Info pullsed from those pages:
Image | Name | For | Fill | Oper V | Conduct V | Background uA (max) |
Resistor @ Vmax |
| | | | | | | | |||||||
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SBM-20 |
Gamma, beta | 400 | |||||||||||||
[eBay Sanutek 311490458155] |
SNM-9 CHM-9 |
Neutron, slow | |||||||||||||
SNM-11 CHM-11 |
Neutron | BF3 | 1500 - 3000 | 600 - 700 | 5.27 | 570 M | |||||||||
SNM-12 CHM-12 |
Neutron | 500 - 700 | 400+ | 11.0 | 64 M | ||||||||||
SNM-13 CHM-13 |
Neutron, slow | 450 - 600 | 450+ | 5.5 | 110 M | ||||||||||
SNM-14 CHM-14 |
Neutron | 450 - 600 | 600 - 700 | 5.27 | 110 M | ||||||||||
SNM-16 CHM-16 |
Neutron | 2000 - 2800 | 2000+ | 25.0 | 110 M | ||||||||||
SNM-17 CHM-17 |
Neutron | BF3 | 2000 - 2800 | 2000+ | 25.0 | 110 M | |||||||||
SNM-18 CHM-18 |
Neutron, slow | 1275 - 1500 | ? | ? | ? | ||||||||||
SNM-18.01 CHM-18.01 |
Neutron | 1700 - 3000 | 1450 - 1650 | 25.0 | 68 M | ||||||||||
SNM-19N CHM-19N |
Neutron | 2000 - 2800 | 600 - 1750 | 15.0 | 190 M | ||||||||||
SNM-32 CHM-32 |
Neutron, slow | He-3 | 1500 - 3000 | 600 - 700 | 25.0 | 120 M | |||||||||
SNM-42 CHM-42 |
Neutron | 1500 - 3000 | 600 - 700 | 25.0 | 120 M |
Resistor calculation:
- Don't exceed max corona current
- Use reccomended voltages
- Assume tube drop negligible (although its not really)
- R = V / I type calculation
- Variable voltage supply: choose R at high voltage so that voltage can be safely varied over entire range
CHM vs SNM: English interpretation of Cyrillic characters gives them "CHM" prefixes. I've been led to believe SNM is more proper although I can't really back that up
Contents
GS-PREAMP
The SNM tubes can be a bit tricky to get working as the SNR isn't very high compared to GM tubes (like the SBM-20). Bee research says SNR is about 3.
They sell a small preamp board with Schmidt triggers to help filter out noise and instructions on how to use it. If you are looking for a relatively quick start without shelling big bucks for new tubes this is probably a good route to go.
2015-12-12: JM got board for evaluation. Will post more once I try it out
SBM-20
Datasheet: http://gstube.com/data/2398/
sbm-20 mount
- http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/fuse-clips/7874249/
- Littelfuse Spring Brass PCB Mount Fuse Clip for 6.3 x 32mm Cartridge Fuse
- http://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=01020071Z
SNM-11
Box
SNM-13
From eBay listing:
Russian Slow-Neutron Corona Counter SNM-13 Operating Voltage - 500 V Slop of plateau, % per 100 V - ≤5 Neutron sencitivity, pulses per neutron/ cm2 - 0.5 Plateau Length - 150 V Natural counter background, cpm - ≤ 2 Temperature range , 0C - -50... +100 Life time - more 1500 working hours Diameter - 8.5 mm Length - 85 mm
Box
SNM-17
Custom case
Someone on eBay is selling these. The negative electrode was completely lose...not sure if I'd trust it. Maybe it was secured in some way I missed when I took it apart? Other than that it seems pretty solid case. Some hot melt used to hold things together but its cleanly done.
SNM-32
http://www.fusor.eu/monitors.html#neutron_detector
- Has very good information
- Basically suggests 100M resistor with 1500V supply
eBay listing
Russian Slow Neutron Corona Counter SNM-32 Operating Voltage - 1500V - 3000V Strating Voltage - 600V - 700V Slop of plateau, % per 100 V - ≤ 1 Neutron sencitivity, pulses per neutron/ cm2 - 0.8 Plateau Length - 1500 V Natural counter background, pulses/sec - ≤ 1 Body Diameter - 18 mm Body Length - 313 mm
Same thing as CHM32? Maybe the datasheet
- "Sometimes references are made to this detector as the CHM-32 detector, which is identical to SNM-32, but written in Cyrillic script"
From that page:
1. наклон плато счетной характеристики % на I в
Plateau (voltage) slope count(ing) characteristics percent in I (current?) B (voltage?) (in maximum column) 0.01
2. чувствительность счетчика к нейтронам по отношению к контрольному образцы, относит .ед.
sensitivity of the counter to neutrons with respect to the control sample refers (reference) . units. (minimum column) 0.8
3. Напряжение зажигания коронного разряда, в
Corona discharge voltage (V) (min-max) 600-700
4. средний ток коронного разряда, мкА
Average Corona Discharge Current, MicroAmps (max column) looks like 28 (23?)
5. собственный фон, имп.с ^ -I
Own background (some unit of measure, which transliterates to imp.s to the negative I; S could be impulse seconds in this case and maybe I is still current?) anyway ... (max column) 0.017
6. радиационная помехоустойчивость, Р/ч
Radiation Noise Immunity (Rads/hour) (max column) 1500 uh...WOW!
7. выходная емкость, пф
Output Capacitance (pF = picofarad?) (max column) 6
Wonder what the output impedance is?
8. сопротивление изоляции, Ом
Insulation Resistance, Ohhs. (min column) 10 to the 10th
Some of the earlier blurbs:
- tчетчикиа = partially snm32 snm42
- etiketka = label
- tчетчикиа = partially snm32 snm42, prednaznachen = intented, dlia = for, registratsii = record, miedlenih = slow, nietronov = neutron, v = in, diapasonie = diapason, energii = energy klimaticheskoi ispolnenie = climatic execution, uksl = ?, tablitcha 1 = table 1
- razmer = size
- massa = weight
- ne bolee = no more
- osnovni = main, elektricheskie = electrical, I = and, radiometritcheskie = radiometrical, parametric = parameter
- tablitcha 2 = table 2
- nameniovanie = name, parametra = parameter
- edinitcha = one (number), izmernia = measure, forma = form/shape, ne menee = no less, ne bolee = no more
- protiajennost = distance, plato tchetnoy = plateau ?, karakteristiki = characteristics
- naimenovanie = name, parametra = parameter
- edinitsa = unit, izmerenia = measure
Sounds like its intended to have a moderator around it to slow down fast neutrons.
Overcurrent damage
From misunderstanding datasheet and not using a resistor. If you see something like this on a tube don't buy it
Box
mcmaster
Some notes on trouble having getting it to work
mk1: voltage divider
mk2: coupling cap
Try to follow directions here: http://www.fusor.eu/monitors.html#neutron_detector
Above: my actual schematic