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Vendor page: https://www.hitachi-hightech.com/hhs-us/product_list/?ld=sms1&md=sms1-19 | Vendor page: https://www.hitachi-hightech.com/hhs-us/product_list/?ld=sms1&md=sms1-19 | ||
− | ==McMaster Vortex-EX== | + | ==Pinout== |
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |+ | ||
+ | Aggregate functionality | ||
+ | !Pin | ||
+ | !Function | ||
+ | !Notes | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |1 | ||
+ | |N/C | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |2 | ||
+ | |N/C | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |3 | ||
+ | | -12V | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |4 | ||
+ | | +12V | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |5 | ||
+ | |? | ||
+ | |FIXME | ||
+ | Reference: +11.37V | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |6 | ||
+ | |Ground | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |7 | ||
+ | |HV "A" | ||
+ | |Typically 0V | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |8 | ||
+ | |HV "B" | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |9 | ||
+ | |Ground | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |10 | ||
+ | |Ground | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |11 | ||
+ | |Ground | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |12 | ||
+ | |N/C | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |13 | ||
+ | |N/C | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |14 | ||
+ | |HV "C" | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |15 | ||
+ | |HV "D" | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |}<br /> | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==Detector units== | ||
+ | |||
+ | |||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |+Unit summary | ||
+ | !Unit | ||
+ | !Model | ||
+ | !S/N | ||
+ | !Initial | ||
+ | A | ||
+ | |||
+ | (pot V) | ||
+ | !Initial | ||
+ | B | ||
+ | |||
+ | (pot V) | ||
+ | !Initial | ||
+ | C | ||
+ | |||
+ | (pot V) | ||
+ | !Initial | ||
+ | D | ||
+ | |||
+ | (pot V) | ||
+ | !Host ports | ||
+ | !Misc ports | ||
+ | !Notes | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |McMaster original | ||
+ | |MMV-DPP | ||
+ | |SNTUS-T177-1196 | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |USB | ||
+ | Parallel | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |Host connection ok | ||
+ | D cal pot stuck | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |McMaster second | ||
+ | |MMVI-DPP2 | ||
+ | |SNTUS-184-1325 | ||
+ | |0.00 | ||
+ | | -0.89 | ||
+ | | -1.66 | ||
+ | | -2.10 | ||
+ | |USB | ||
+ | |SYNC | ||
+ | GATE | ||
+ | |All pots work | ||
+ | Host connection untested | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | <br /> | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==Head units== | ||
+ | <br /> | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |+Unit summary | ||
+ | !Unit | ||
+ | !Model | ||
+ | !S/N | ||
+ | !A | ||
+ | (pot V) | ||
+ | !B | ||
+ | (pot V) | ||
+ | !C | ||
+ | (pot V) | ||
+ | !D | ||
+ | (pot V) | ||
+ | !SDD Thickness | ||
+ | !Window | ||
+ | !Snout | ||
+ | !Notes | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |McMaster 1 | ||
+ | |VORTEX-EX | ||
+ | |SNTUS-T1348-10265 | ||
+ | |0.0 | ||
+ | | -0.60 | ||
+ | | -1.40 | ||
+ | | -1.60 | ||
+ | |500 | ||
+ | |Be | ||
+ | ok? | ||
+ | |Short | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |McMaster 2 | ||
+ | |VORTEX-EX | ||
+ | |HHSUS-T1344S-302387NF | ||
+ | |0.0 | ||
+ | | -0.80 | ||
+ | | -1.30 | ||
+ | | -2.20 | ||
+ | |1000 | ||
+ | |Missing | ||
+ | |Medium | ||
+ | |Broken | ||
+ | Disassembled | ||
+ | |||
+ | Longer snout | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |McMaster SEM | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |Long / fancy | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | <br /> | ||
+ | ===McMaster Vortex-EX=== | ||
HITATCHI Vortex-EX | HITATCHI Vortex-EX | ||
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Has paperwork with it and looks generally complete | Has paperwork with it and looks generally complete | ||
− | == New unit == | + | ==New unit== |
Kit is missing the collimator. Contains all other parts. | Kit is missing the collimator. Contains all other parts. | ||
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-200V DC 6mA | -200V DC 6mA | ||
+ | |||
+ | <br /> | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==2022-10-04== | ||
+ | Inventory: | ||
+ | |||
+ | *VORTEX ELECTRONICS SII controller + matching detector. Detector might have TEC issue / doesn't go down to temperature? | ||
+ | *Spare detector (broken window, disassembled) | ||
+ | *SEM detector in the mail | ||
+ | |||
+ | Open spare detector up and take some pictures. Wire bonding / complex structure | ||
+ | |||
+ | Mystery component is probably ion pump. Its only used at the factory and has external magnet + electronics to drive it not included in the final unit | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==2022-10-05== | ||
+ | Goal: use breakout board to document DA15 pinout a bit | ||
+ | <br /> | ||
+ | Use software to test first: Prospect 0.1.16 w/ Saturn processor. Tweak settings and can get noise but no real signal | ||
+ | |||
+ | Controller: SII NanoTechnology USA Inc, VORTEX ELECTRONICS | ||
+ | |||
+ | |||
+ | Detector this was paired with: | ||
+ | |||
+ | *A 0V | ||
+ | *B -0.60V | ||
+ | **But test point actually read -0.476 => corrected | ||
+ | *C -1.40V | ||
+ | *D -1.60V | ||
+ | **Turning pot doesn't affect cal voltage | ||
+ | **But voltage is correct so leave alone? | ||
+ | *SDD Thickness 1000 um | ||
+ | **Affects HV? | ||
+ | |||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |+ | ||
+ | Power supply w/ N/C detector | ||
+ | !Pin | ||
+ | !No detector | ||
+ | vs pin 1 (V) | ||
+ | !Notes | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |1 | ||
+ | |0.0 | ||
+ | |Not same net as 2 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |2 | ||
+ | |0.0 | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |3 | ||
+ | |<nowiki>-11.92</nowiki> | ||
+ | |4, 5, 6, 10 respond with short beep | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |4 | ||
+ | |<nowiki>+11.90</nowiki> | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |5 | ||
+ | |<nowiki>+11.37</nowiki> | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |6 | ||
+ | |Ground (chassis) | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |7 | ||
+ | |Pulse? AC? | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |8 | ||
+ | |<nowiki>-46.6</nowiki> | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |9 | ||
+ | |Pulse? AC? | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |10 | ||
+ | |Ground (chassis) | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |11 | ||
+ | |Pulse? AC? | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |12 | ||
+ | |Pulse? AC? | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |13 | ||
+ | |Pulse? AC? | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |14 | ||
+ | |<nowiki>-137.9</nowiki> | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |15 | ||
+ | |<nowiki>-160.1</nowiki> | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | What if I re-measure vs 6/10? | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |+ | ||
+ | Broken window unit internal notes | ||
+ | !Pin | ||
+ | !Function | ||
+ | !Wire color | ||
+ | !To harness | ||
+ | !Notes | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |1 | ||
+ | |N/A | ||
+ | |N/C | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |2 | ||
+ | |N/A | ||
+ | |N/C | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |3 | ||
+ | | -12V | ||
+ | |Black | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |4 | ||
+ | | +12V | ||
+ | |Red | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |5 | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |Brown | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |6 | ||
+ | |Ground (chassis) | ||
+ | |Green | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |7 | ||
+ | |N/A | ||
+ | |N/C | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |8 | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |Orange | ||
+ | |R01262RevB.XP1 | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |9 | ||
+ | |Ground (chassis) | ||
+ | |Green | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |10 | ||
+ | |Ground (chassis) | ||
+ | |Green | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |11 | ||
+ | |Ground (chassis) | ||
+ | |Green | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |12 | ||
+ | |N/A | ||
+ | |N/C | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |13 | ||
+ | |N/A | ||
+ | |N/C | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |14 | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |Yellow | ||
+ | |R01262RevB.XP1 | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |15 | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |Gray | ||
+ | |R01262RevB.XP1 | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |}<br /> | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |+ | ||
+ | Aggregate functionality | ||
+ | !Pin | ||
+ | !Function | ||
+ | !Notes | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |1 | ||
+ | |N/C | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |2 | ||
+ | |N/C | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |3 | ||
+ | | -12V | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |4 | ||
+ | | +12V | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |5 | ||
+ | |? | ||
+ | |FIXME | ||
+ | Reference: +11.37V | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |6 | ||
+ | |Ground | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |7 | ||
+ | |N/C | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |8 | ||
+ | |HV1 | ||
+ | |Reference: -46.6V | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |9 | ||
+ | |Ground | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |10 | ||
+ | |Ground | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |11 | ||
+ | |Ground | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |12 | ||
+ | |N/C | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |13 | ||
+ | |N/C | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |14 | ||
+ | |HV2 | ||
+ | |Reference: -137.9V | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |15 | ||
+ | |HV3 | ||
+ | |Reference: -160.1V | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | What if I re-measure vs 6/10? | ||
+ | |||
+ | <br /> | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==2022-09-18== | ||
+ | |||
+ | Big unit triage: | ||
+ | |||
+ | *Ion pump loose => was causing the rattling | ||
+ | *Order new NiMH cells to rebuild battery pack | ||
+ | **Original: 5P2S w/ NiCd (6V) | ||
+ | *Window fell off => needs reglue | ||
+ | |||
+ | |||
+ | Pots are just voltage dividers: | ||
+ | |||
+ | *CW => less negative (decrease magnitude / increase voltage) | ||
+ | *CCW => more negative (increase magnitude / decrease voltage) | ||
+ | *1 => 100x | ||
+ | *A => 7 | ||
+ | *B => 8 | ||
+ | *C => 14 | ||
+ | *D => 15 | ||
+ | |||
+ | |||
+ | Pot D is responding...wasn't it not last time? Looks unstable though. Might need some repair | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==2022-12-10== | ||
+ | Got second controller | ||
+ | |||
+ | *MMVI-DPP2 | ||
+ | *S/N SNTUS-184-1325 | ||
+ | *Has "SYNC" and "GATE" connectors, removed PARALLEL connector | ||
+ | |||
+ | Initial state of | ||
+ | |||
+ | *A: 0.00 V | ||
+ | *B: -0.89 V | ||
+ | *C: -1.66 V | ||
+ | *D: -2.10 V | ||
+ | |||
+ | <br /> |
Latest revision as of 04:33, 11 December 2022
Bargain SDD module McMaster bought on eBay. Can I get it working without too much effort?
Can get a complete unit + PS for $1500-2500
Vendor page: https://www.hitachi-hightech.com/hhs-us/product_list/?ld=sms1&md=sms1-19
Contents
Pinout
Pin | Function | Notes |
---|---|---|
1 | N/C | |
2 | N/C | |
3 | -12V | |
4 | +12V | |
5 | ? | FIXME
Reference: +11.37V |
6 | Ground | |
7 | HV "A" | Typically 0V |
8 | HV "B" | |
9 | Ground | |
10 | Ground | |
11 | Ground | |
12 | N/C | |
13 | N/C | |
14 | HV "C" | |
15 | HV "D" |
Detector units
Unit | Model | S/N | Initial
A (pot V) |
Initial
B (pot V) |
Initial
C (pot V) |
Initial
D (pot V) |
Host ports | Misc ports | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
McMaster original | MMV-DPP | SNTUS-T177-1196 | USB
Parallel |
Host connection ok
D cal pot stuck | |||||
McMaster second | MMVI-DPP2 | SNTUS-184-1325 | 0.00 | -0.89 | -1.66 | -2.10 | USB | SYNC
GATE |
All pots work
Host connection untested |
Head units
Unit | Model | S/N | A
(pot V) |
B
(pot V) |
C
(pot V) |
D
(pot V) |
SDD Thickness | Window | Snout | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
McMaster 1 | VORTEX-EX | SNTUS-T1348-10265 | 0.0 | -0.60 | -1.40 | -1.60 | 500 | Be
ok? |
Short | |
McMaster 2 | VORTEX-EX | HHSUS-T1344S-302387NF | 0.0 | -0.80 | -1.30 | -2.20 | 1000 | Missing | Medium | Broken
Disassembled Longer snout |
McMaster SEM | Long / fancy |
McMaster Vortex-EX
HITATCHI Vortex-EX
Based on vendor images looks like Vortex-60EX
Label:
VORTEX-EX S/N HHSUS-T1344S-302387NF
HITATCHI A 0 B -0.80V C -1.30V D -2.20V SDD Thickness 1000 um
840-266000 Rev AA SER. NO. 0616301
Thermo SCIENTIFIC 5225 Verona Rd Madison, WI 53711
eBay usa.88
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174805037510
Comes w/ power supply and cable
Power supply:
VORTEX ELECTRONICS SII STATUS IO RATE DETECTOR TEC
Detector
SII Vortex A 0 B -0.60V C -1.40V D -1.60V SDD Thickness 500 um Warning: Detector unit will work only with the DPP/PS (serial #) assigned as a System T=1.2V POWER
maximusenergy
https://www.ebay.com/itm/143861496023
Hitachi Vortex-90EX
Has paperwork with it and looks generally complete
New unit
Kit is missing the collimator. Contains all other parts.
085-051000 CBL Vortx ac input
15 pin computer cable
085-050900 CBL Vortx SDD dector
A04357 software license
Hitachi Vortex EX Berylieum
Power supply
Thermo power supplies
Some of these on eBay. Are they related?
DA-15, but looks to be the standard preamplifier found on other LN2 detectors. Is this all these detectors need? What about the A/B/C/D tuning seen on the maximusenergy power supply?
Output Power
5V DC 1.3A
5V DC 1.3A
15V DC 100mA
-15V DC 100mA
-200V DC 6mA
2022-10-04
Inventory:
- VORTEX ELECTRONICS SII controller + matching detector. Detector might have TEC issue / doesn't go down to temperature?
- Spare detector (broken window, disassembled)
- SEM detector in the mail
Open spare detector up and take some pictures. Wire bonding / complex structure
Mystery component is probably ion pump. Its only used at the factory and has external magnet + electronics to drive it not included in the final unit
2022-10-05
Goal: use breakout board to document DA15 pinout a bit
Use software to test first: Prospect 0.1.16 w/ Saturn processor. Tweak settings and can get noise but no real signal
Controller: SII NanoTechnology USA Inc, VORTEX ELECTRONICS
Detector this was paired with:
- A 0V
- B -0.60V
- But test point actually read -0.476 => corrected
- C -1.40V
- D -1.60V
- Turning pot doesn't affect cal voltage
- But voltage is correct so leave alone?
- SDD Thickness 1000 um
- Affects HV?
Pin | No detector
vs pin 1 (V) |
Notes |
---|---|---|
1 | 0.0 | Not same net as 2 |
2 | 0.0 | |
3 | -11.92 | 4, 5, 6, 10 respond with short beep |
4 | +11.90 | |
5 | +11.37 | |
6 | Ground (chassis) | |
7 | Pulse? AC? | |
8 | -46.6 | |
9 | Pulse? AC? | |
10 | Ground (chassis) | |
11 | Pulse? AC? | |
12 | Pulse? AC? | |
13 | Pulse? AC? | |
14 | -137.9 | |
15 | -160.1 |
What if I re-measure vs 6/10?
Pin | Function | Wire color | To harness | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | N/A | N/C | ||
2 | N/A | N/C | ||
3 | -12V | Black | ||
4 | +12V | Red | ||
5 | Brown | |||
6 | Ground (chassis) | Green | ||
7 | N/A | N/C | ||
8 | Orange | R01262RevB.XP1 | ||
9 | Ground (chassis) | Green | ||
10 | Ground (chassis) | Green | ||
11 | Ground (chassis) | Green | ||
12 | N/A | N/C | ||
13 | N/A | N/C | ||
14 | Yellow | R01262RevB.XP1 | ||
15 | Gray | R01262RevB.XP1 |
Pin | Function | Notes |
---|---|---|
1 | N/C | |
2 | N/C | |
3 | -12V | |
4 | +12V | |
5 | ? | FIXME
Reference: +11.37V |
6 | Ground | |
7 | N/C | |
8 | HV1 | Reference: -46.6V |
9 | Ground | |
10 | Ground | |
11 | Ground | |
12 | N/C | |
13 | N/C | |
14 | HV2 | Reference: -137.9V |
15 | HV3 | Reference: -160.1V |
What if I re-measure vs 6/10?
2022-09-18
Big unit triage:
- Ion pump loose => was causing the rattling
- Order new NiMH cells to rebuild battery pack
- Original: 5P2S w/ NiCd (6V)
- Window fell off => needs reglue
Pots are just voltage dividers:
- CW => less negative (decrease magnitude / increase voltage)
- CCW => more negative (increase magnitude / decrease voltage)
- 1 => 100x
- A => 7
- B => 8
- C => 14
- D => 15
Pot D is responding...wasn't it not last time? Looks unstable though. Might need some repair
2022-12-10
Got second controller
- MMVI-DPP2
- S/N SNTUS-184-1325
- Has "SYNC" and "GATE" connectors, removed PARALLEL connector
Initial state of
- A: 0.00 V
- B: -0.89 V
- C: -1.66 V
- D: -2.10 V